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  • Chip Wars: Will Cell Phone Take The Laptop Crown?

    Chip Wars: Will Cell Phone Take The Laptop Crown?

    As industry leaders in chip manufacturing vie for supremacy, there’s mounting speculation that the capabilities of smartphones might soon rival the traditional dominance of laptops.

    AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm are all focused on creating a technology that will make Apple’s M3 chip look outdated while fully embracing AI and increasing battery life.

    Rumors suggest that even Nvidia is pursuing an Arm-based solution. This motivation was part of the reason for its failed attempt to buy Arm, which has since gone public.

    RISC-V is in the wings, and as Arm struggles with its licensing model, that platform is looking ever more attractive, yet it hasn’t emerged as a threat to PCs.

    Adding another twist to the narrative, OpenAI’s ChatGPT is exploring the development of a neural processing unit (NPU) that could supplant GPUs for high-performance large language models, such as generative AI and the like.

    This activity will take place mostly late in 2024, suggesting there will be a battle royale. Yet, behind the scenes, companies are discovering that smartphones increasingly may be able to make laptops redundant.

    So, the winner in 2024 will need to defend against the rise of smartphones, which would favor Qualcomm and Lenovo. Apple will resist this because it wants people to buy both products.

    Let’s talk about the laptop chip wars of 2024 this week, and we’ll close with my Product of the Week, an affordable, high-end, 4K touchscreen and graphics monitor from Wacom.

    Laying Out the Battlefield

    Intel has been admirably recovering from its mistakes of the past decade. It’s an entrenched vendor, so all it really needs to be is good enough.

    Challenging vendors must convince potential customers that Intel isn’t good enough, but that is a surprisingly high bar. Intel’s defense will depend heavily on its Lunar Lake part, which is, on paper, as powerful as what AMD has coming and as efficient as what Qualcomm has on the way.

    However, Intel has lots of distractions. From the war in Israel, where one of Intel’s biggest FABs is located, to the fallout from layoffs and salary reductions, Intel has more distractions than its peers, which will stand against its timely execution. So far, I’m not seeing any issues, but if the OEMs do, they’ll hedge with one of the others.

    AMD

    AMD has been a shining star of execution.

    Focused on PCs, the company continues to perform well and gain share. AMD’s Ryzen 8000 processors with Zen 5 are likely to outperform Intel’s Lunar Lake, but remember that Intel only has to be good enough, meaning that AMD’s performance must be high enough to convince buyers to convert to AMD.

    Existing AMD customers will stay with the company, but for market growth, the bar for AMD is exceedingly high. It would require creating a highly competitive part and a major advertising campaign to make people less happy with Intel. Such campaigns are not something AMD typically funds, making it less likely AMD will take a significant share from Intel even if its parts significantly outperform Intel’s.

    Qualcomm

    Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite is a fascinating new processor, but it isn’t x86-based; it’s Arm-based. Because of this architecture, the processor must run an x86 emulator, which can reduce the user’s perception of performance. Such a requirement demands a far larger leap of faith than AMD requires.

    While the battery life and AI performance numbers for the Snapdragon X Elite on paper are impressive, they might not be substantial enough to penetrate a market currently dominated by the x86 standard.

    Qualcomm is getting a lot of unusual help from Microsoft, which loves this technology, but Microsoft’s latest showcase laptop, the Surface Studio 2, is Intel-based. Qualcomm has a greater dependency on Microsoft than AMD does, so the success of this part will be tied tightly to Microsoft’s support and Qualcomm’s marketing.

    Regarding marketing, Qualcomm normally depends on its OEMs to market, which seems to work fine for smartphones but hasn’t worked out for PCs in years.

    Qualcomm would have a greater shot if it took a more competitive approach and attacked via smartphones. None of Qualcomm’s competitors for PCs have smartphone positions.

    I’m seeing increasing testing of using smartphones to displace laptops, and I expect someone will eventually get this right. If they do, Qualcomm is in the best position to benefit, which would place Qualcomm’s strength against the weakness of its competitors rather than vice versa.

    Nvidia

    As noted, Nvidia is a wild card here, and we know little about its Arm-based CPU effort.

    Nvidia has relationships with all the PC OEMs and a leadership position in AI, which gives it a far stronger chance than it would have otherwise to be a disruptor in this market.

    Having executed extremely well and anticipated market moves before its peers, Nvidia has been a force to reckon with over the last decade. It uses AI internally more than most of its competitors, suggesting it could develop a brand-new approach to finding a blend of traditional performance and AI superiority.

    I expect Nvidia to surprise the market. How big a surprise is still unknown.

    Wrapping Up

    Next year will be a processor cage match, with Intel still in the lead position in terms of market share and level of entrenchment.

    However, this new AI wave is anything but settled, providing paths for displacement that have never existed. AI is the big disruptor, and Nvidia, right now, is the king of AI, while Microsoft is the most aggressive marketer of the technology.

    In addition, if an innovator can figure out how to package technologies like head-mounted displays and better hardware voice interfaces, there is the potential for an iPod-like market pivot. I doubt Apple will want to do this, given it wants customers to buy both a smartphone and a PC, but it could still integrate the two things more tightly, potentially achieving the same goal.

    All of this goes to say that 2024 will be a fascinating year, and by the end, we may be looking at laptops, desktop PCs, and even smartphones very differently than we are today.

  • US Escalates Tech Battle by Cutting China Off AI Chips

    US Escalates Tech Battle by Cutting China Off AI Chips

    The Biden administration is reducing the types of semiconductors that American companies will be able to sell to China, citing the desire to close loopholes in existing regulations announced last year.

    On Tuesday, the US Commerce Department unveiled new rules that further tighten a sweeping set of export controls first introduced in October 2022.

    The updated rules “will increase effectiveness of our controls and further shut off pathways to evade our restrictions,” US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said in a statement. “We will keep working to protect our national security by restricting access to critical technologies, vigilantly enforcing our rules, while minimizing any unintended impact on trade flows.”

    Advanced artificial intelligence chips, such as Nvidia’s H800 and A800 products, will be affected, according to a regulatory filing from the US company.

    The regulations also expand export curbs beyond mainland China and Macao to 21 other countries with which the United States maintains an arms embargo, including Iran and Russia.

    The measures, which have affected the shares of major American chipmakers, are set to take effect in 30 days.

    The original rules had sought to hamper China’s ability to procure advanced computing chips and manufacture advanced weapons systems. Since then, senior administration officials have suggested they needed to be adjusted due to technological developments.

    Not all chips

    Raimondo, who visited China in August, said the administration was “laser-focused” on slowing the advancement of China’s military. She emphasized that Washington had opted not to go further in restricting chips for other applications.

    Chips used in phones, video games and electric vehicles were purposefully carved out from the new rules, according to senior administration officials.

    But these assurances are unlikely to placate Beijing, which has vowed to “win the battle” in core technologies in order to bolster the country’s position as a tech superpower.

    China’s Foreign Ministry criticized the Biden administration’s new rules Monday, before they were officially unveiled.

    “The US needs to stop politicizing and weaponizing trade and tech issues and stop destabilizing global industrial and supply chains,” spokesperson Mao Ning told a press briefing. “We will closely follow the developments and firmly safeguard our rights and interests.”

    As part of ongoing dialogue established by Raimondo and other US officials with their Chinese counterparts, Beijing was informed of the impending updates, according to a senior administration official.

    “We let the Chinese know for clarity that these rules were coming, but there was no negotiation with them,” the official told reporters.

    The tech rivalry between the world’s two largest economies has been heating up. In recent months, the United States has enlisted its allies in Europe and Asia in restricting sales of advanced chipmaking equipment to China.

    In July, Beijing hit back by imposing its own curbs on exports of germanium and gallium, two elements essential for making semiconductors.

    Nvidia, Intel, AMD affected

    Shares of US chipmakers fell Tuesday following the announcement of new export controls.

    Nvidia’s stock closed down 4.7%, while Intel slipped 1.4%. AMD shares ended 1.2% lower.

    In its filing, Nvidia said the rules imposed new licensing requirements for exports to China and other markets such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Vietnam.

    The company said its A800 chips which was reportedly created for Chinese customers in order to circumvent last year’s restrictions, would be among the components affected.

    However, “given the strength of demand for our products worldwide, we do not anticipate that the additional restrictions will have a near-term meaningful impact on our financial results,” Nvidia said.

    The broader US chipmaking industry is also examining the impact of the new rules.

    The Semiconductor Industry Association said in a statement Tuesday that while it recognized the need to protect national security, “overly broad, unilateral controls risk harming the US semiconductor ecosystem without advancing national security as they encourage overseas customers to look elsewhere.”

    “We urge the administration to strengthen coordination with allies to ensure a level playing field for all companies,” added the group, which represents 99% of the US chip sector.

    The measures are also being reviewed in Europe. On Tuesday, ASML, the Dutch chipmaking equipment manufacturer, said it was evaluating the implications of the rules, though it did not expect them “to have a material impact on our financial outlook for 2023.”

    During a call Wednesday about the company’s third-quarter results, ASML chief executive Peter Wennink said the updated export restrictions would affect between 10% and 15% of the firm’s sales to China.

    On Tuesday, the US Department of Commerce added 13 Chinese entities to a list of firms with which US companies may not do business for national security reasons.

    They include two Chinese startups, Biren Technology and Moore Thread Intelligent Technology, and their subsidiaries.

    The department alleges that these companies are “involved in the development of advanced computing chips that have been found to be engaged in activities contrary to US national security.”

  • Europe Joins the US in its Chip War with China

    Europe Joins the US in its Chip War with China

    Europe’s biggest producer of advanced chipmaking technology has joined the United States in its escalating standoff with China.

    The Netherlands announced Wednesday, via a letter from its trade minister to parliament, that new restrictions on overseas sales of semiconductor technology were needed to protect national security.

    While the letter didn’t name ASML Holdings, Europe’s biggest tech firm, the curbs will affect the Dutch company, which is a key supplier to global chipmakers, including those in China.

    The announcement marks the first public move by the Dutch government toward adopting rules, advocated by Washington, to restrict China’s chipmaking industry.

    Japan has also been involved in three-way discussions with the Netherlands and the United States, a source familiar with the talks told CNN. Reuters reported that Tokyo is expected to issue an update on its policies on chip equipment exports as soon as this week.

    China said Thursday it “firmly opposes” the Netherlands’ upcoming curbs, which come just months after the United States restricted sales of some semiconductor machinery to Beijing. For those measures to really bite, Washington needs other important suppliers, located in the Netherlands and Japan, to join.

    Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning accused “certain countries” of “coercing and inducing other countries to take export restriction measures against China at the expense of their allies’ interests.”

    She didn’t name the United States, but Chinese officials often use the term “certain countries” or “some countries” when making critical comments about Washington.

    “We hope the Netherlands won’t follow some countries in abusing export control measures,” Mao said. “China will take all necessary countermeasures to protect our legitimate rights and interests.”

    This week, Chinese leader Xi Jinping hit out at the United States with unusually direct comments as he called on China’s private companies to “fight” alongside the Communist Party at a time of mounting challenges. He accused Western countries led by the United States of trying to “contain” and “suppress” China.

    Beijing has set a target for China to become a global leader in a wide range of industries, including artificial intelligence, 5G wireless technology and quantum computing.

    Intensifying competition

    In October, those plans came up against a major obstacle when the Biden administration banned Chinese companies from buying advanced chips and chipmaking equipment without a license. It also restricted the ability of American citizens to provide support for the development or production of chips at certain manufacturing facilities in China.

    Chips are vital for everything from smartphones and self-driving cars to advanced computing and weapons manufacturing.

    Veldhoven-based ASML is a global leader in the production of lithography machines, which employ light to print patterns on silicon. Customers such as TSMC, Samsung and China’s SMIC use the Dutch company’s equipment to mass-produce microchips.

    “These new export controls focus on advanced chip manufacturing technology, including the most advanced deposition and immersion lithography tools,” ASML said in a statement. “Due to these upcoming regulations, ASML will need to apply for export licenses for shipment of the most advanced immersion … systems.”

    It added that it didn’t expect the upcoming measures to have a material effect on its 2023 financial outlook. The company has mainly sold “mature” products to China.

    European battleground

    The announcement of the Netherlands’ export restrictions, the details of which are expected to be confirmed before the summer, isn’t the first time the US-China tech rivalry spilled over into Europe.

    Two European semiconductor deals ran into trouble last year over links with Beijing, in a sign of concern spreading in the West over potential Chinese control of critical infrastructure.

    In November, the new owner of Britain’s biggest chipmaker was ordered to unwind its takeover, just days after another chip factory sale was blocked in Germany. Both transactions were hit by national security concerns, and had involved acquisitions by Chinese-owned companies.

    In the United Kingdom, Nexperia, a Dutch subsidiary of Shanghai-listed semiconductor maker Wingtech, was told by the government to sell at least 86% of its stake in Newport Wafer Fab, more than a year after taking control of the factory. Staffers have since protested the decision, saying it puts nearly 600 jobs at risk.

    In Germany, the economic ministry barred Elmos Semiconductor, an automotive chipmaker, from selling its factory in the city of Dortmund to Silex, a Swedish subsidiary of China’s Sai Microelectronics.

    The failed deals illustrate how, at a time of escalating US-China tensions, Europe is also under growing pressure to act, particularly as officials face US calls for key sectors to be kept out of Chinese control.

  • US-China Chip War: Major Microchip Firm Says China Employee Stole Data

    US-China Chip War: Major Microchip Firm Says China Employee Stole Data

    Major computer chip equipment maker ASML says a former employee in China stole information about its technology.

    The Dutch firm says it has since reported the breach to authorities in the Netherlands and the US.

    However, the company added that it does not “believe that the misappropriation is material to our business.”

    ASML is one of the most important firms in the global microchip supply chain. It makes machines that produce the world’s most advanced chips.

    Chips, or semiconductors, which are used to power everything from mobile phones to military hardware, are at the centre of a bitter dispute between the US and China.

    “We have experienced unauthorised misappropriation of data relating to proprietary technology by a (now) former employee in China,” ASML said in its latest annual report.

    “As a result of the security incident, certain export control regulations may have been violated. We are implementing additional remedial measures in light of this incident,” it added.

    ASML did not name the former employee or give details on which export control regulations may have been violated.

    The firm did not immediately respond to a BBC request for comment.

    The Chinese embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a BBC request for comment.

    This is not the first time that ASML has linked an intellectual property (IP) breach to China.

    In its 2021 annual report, the firm said it was aware of reports that a Chinese semiconductor equipment and software maker, DongFang JingYuan Electron, “was actively marketing products in China that could potentially infringe on ASML’s IP rights.”

    DongFang JingYuan Electron denied the allegations.

    At the time the Beijing-based company said the reports were “inconsistent with the facts”.

    “We reserve the right to take any other legal actions against the relevant false information,” it added.

    Major companies in the semiconductor industry have faced controls on exports to China.

    In October, Washington announced that it would require licences for companies exporting chips to China using US tools or software, no matter where they are made in the world.

    The US has been pushing the Netherlands and Japan to adopt similar restrictions.

    Since 2019 the Dutch government has stopped ASML from selling its most advanced lithography machines to China.

    Lithography machines use lasers to print miniscule patterns on silicon as part of the manufacturing process of microchips.

  • US-China Chip War: How the Technology Dispute is Playing Out

    US-China Chip War: How the Technology Dispute is Playing Out

    The US is rapidly ramping up efforts to try to hobble China’s progress in the semiconductor industry – vital for everything from smartphones to weapons of war.

    In October, Washington announced some of the broadest export controls yet requiring licences for companies exporting chips to China using US tools or software, no matter where they’re made in the world.

    Washington’s measures also prevent US citizens and green card holders from working for certain Chinese chip companies. Green card holders are US permanent residents who have the right to work in the country.

    It is cutting off a key pipeline of American talent to China which will affect the development of high-end semiconductors.

    Why is the US doing this?

    Advanced chips are used to power supercomputers, artificial intelligence and military hardware.

    The US says China’s use of the technology poses a threat to its own national security.

    Alan Estevez, undersecretary at the US Commerce Department announced the rules, saying his intention was to ensure the US was doing everything it could to prevent “sensitive technologies with military applications” from being acquired by China.

    “The threat environment is always changing and we are updating our policies today to make sure we’re addressing the challenges,” he said.

    Meanwhile, China has called the controls “technology terrorism”.

    Countries in Asia that produce chips – such as Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea – have raised concerns about how this bitter battle is affecting the global supply chain.

    And there were three significant developments in the chip conflict over the past week.

    More Chinese firms on ‘entity list’

    The Biden administration has added 36 more Chinese companies, including major chipmaker YMTC to Washington’s “entity list”.

    It means American companies will need government permission to sell certain technologies to them, and that permission is difficult to secure.

    The US restrictions have broad implications. Last week, UK-based computer chip designer Arm confirmed that it was not selling its most advanced designs to Chinese firms including tech giant Alibaba because of US and UK controls.

    Arm said it was “committed to adhering to all applicable export laws and regulations in the jurisdictions in which it operates.”

    China complains to WTO

    China has filed a complaint against the US with the World Trade Organization (WTO) over its export controls on semiconductors and other related technology.

    This is the first WTO case Beijing has brought against the US since President Joe Biden took office in January 2021.

    In its WTO filing, China alleged that the US is abusing export controls to maintain “its leadership in science, technology, engineering and manufacturing sectors”.

    It added that US actions threatened “the stability of the global industrial supply chains”.

    The US said in response that the trade body was “not the appropriate forum” to settle concerns related to national security.

    US Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Administration Thea Kendler said “US national security interests require that we act decisively to deny access to advanced technologies.”

    The complaint specifies that the US has imposed restrictions on the export of approximately 2,800 Chinese goods, but only 1,800 of these were allowed under international trade rules.

    The United States has 60 days to try to resolve the matter. If not, China will be allowed to request for a panel to review its case.

    Earlier this month, the WTO ruled that US tariffs on steel and aluminium that were imposed by the US under former President Donald Trump violated global trade rules.

    Two-thirds of all the goods China sells to the US are subject to tariffs.

    The US said it “strongly rejects” the ruling and has no intention of removing the measures.

    Talks with Japan and the Netherlands

    Japan and the Netherlands could possibly impose export controls on China – limiting the ability of Japanese and Dutch companies to sell advanced products to the Chinese market.

    On Monday, White House national security advisor Jake Sullivan said the US had discussions with the two major suppliers of chip making equipment around adopting similar US controls on Beijing.

    “I’m not going to get ahead of any announcements,” Mr Sullivan told reporters. “I will just say that we are very pleased with the candour, the substance and the intensity of the discussions.”

    The US controls do not only target chipmakers. They also affect manufacturers of chip making equipment.

    Big companies in Japan or the Netherlands could lose out on a large and lucrative buyer of their high end machines.

    Peter Wennink, the chief executive of Dutch chip equipment maker ASML Holding NV, questioned if the Netherlands should restrict exports to China.

    Mr Wennink said that the Dutch government, in response to US pressure, had already stopped ASML from selling its most advanced lithography machines to China since 2019.

    “Maybe [the US thinks] we should come across the table, but ASML has already sacrificed,” he told Dutch media.

    What lies ahead

    Chipmakers are also under pressure to make more advanced chips to support new products.

    For instance, Apple’s new laptop will contain chips from industry leader Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company measuring 3 nanometres. To put that into perspective – a human hair measures roughly 50,000 to 100,000 nanometres.

    Analysts say US controls could put China further behind other chip producing countries, even though Beijing has openly said it wants to prioritise the manufacture of semiconductors and become a superpower in the sector.

    The US has already significantly isolated China’s chip industry, even though the latest measures are not as sweeping as those announced in October.

     

     

    BBC

  • US Chip Makers Hit by New China Export Rule

    US Chip Makers Hit by New China Export Rule

    Shares of major chipmakers Nvidia and AMD have fallen amid concerns of new US restrictions on the sale of artificial intelligence chips to China.

    Nvidia says the US government requires a new licence, effective immediately, to address the risk of chips being “used in, or diverted to a ‘military end use’… in China and Russia”.

    There are fears the rule could lead to millions of dollars in lost revenue.

    Shares of both chipmakers slipped in after-hours trading in New York.

    Nvidia’s shares were down by 6.6% while AMD slipped 3.7%.

    The new restrictions are a “gut punch for Nvidia”, Dan Ives of Wedbush Securities told the BBC.

    Chinese officials have firmly opposed the latest move. According to state media, “actions from the United States deviated from the principle of fair competition and violated international economic and trade rules”.

    In a statement, Beijing said “The US side should immediately stop its wrongdoing, treat companies from all over the world including Chinese companies fairly, and do more things that are conducive to the stability of the world economy.”

    The US Commerce Department told the BBC it was “not in a position to outline specific policy changes at this time”.

    “We are taking a comprehensive approach to implement additional actions necessary related to technologies, end-uses, and end-users to protect US national security and foreign policy interests,” a Commerce Department spokesperson said.

    “This includes preventing China’s acquisition and use of US technology in the context of its military-civil fusion program to fuel its military modernisation efforts, conduct human rights abuses, and enable other malign activities.”

    In a US regulatory filing on Wednesday, Nvidia said the new licence requirement would hit exports of its A100 and H100 chips, which are designed to speed up machine learning tasks, and the systems which include them.

    Around $400m (£345.2m) in sales to China could be affected, Nvidia added, “if customers do not want to purchase the company’s alternative product offerings or if the (US government) does not grant licenses in a timely manner or denies licenses to significant customers”.

    A Nvidia spokesperson told BBC it was liaising with customers in China “to satisfy their planned or future purchases with alternative products”.

    Meanwhile, an AMD spokesperson said the rules, which would prevent the shipment of its MI250 chips to China, were not expected to have “a material impact” on business.

    Both Nvidia and AMD halted sales to Russia after the invasion of Ukraine in February.

    Analysts said the US requirements could make it more difficult for China to acquire chips for advanced computing.

    It could also affect the earnings of US manufacturers such as Nvidia and AMD, said Mario Morales, a California-based analyst at market intelligence firm IDC.

    “Both companies have a large exposure to China and could see more impact going forward, especially if China chooses to retaliate,” Mr Morales said.

    Rising tensions

    Last week, Nvidia reported a revenue of $6.7bn in the second quarter, which was significantly lower than forecasts.

    However, it said revenue from its data centre business – which produces computer chips – surged by 61% from a year earlier.

    “This is really a shot across the bow at China and it’s really going to fan those flames in terms of geopolitical (tensions). Nvidia’s caught in the crossfire,” Mr Ives said.

    The US and China are locked in a long-running dispute over trade and technology.

    Tensions between the world’s two biggest economies rose earlier this month, after US politician Nancy Pelosi made a controversial visit to Taiwan.

    China sees the self-ruled island as a part of its territory and insists it should be unified with the mainland, by force if necessary.

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